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Hi,

Like many of you, I use SOLIDWORKS at home for my personal projects. Since I don't have PDM, and 3DEXPERIENCE is still a mess, I decided to throw together a very simple revision control app (macro). Took me a grand total of 2 days. Since it seems to be working fine, I thought I'd share it with you. Feel free to modify it as per your needs.

Purpose:

This app is intended for a simple version control of parts, assemblies and drawings. It allows you to create multiple revisions of your document, easily switch between these revisions, and lock a particular revision from any further changes by setting it to Released once it is ready for exporting/printing/manufacturing. This app achieves it by saving versioned copies of your document to a repository which is located in the hard drive in a directory of your choosing, and storing revision data in document's Custom Properties.

Benefits:
-No more file mess when trying to version them (myPart, myPartV2, myPartV2_1, myPartV2_1_final, myPartV2_1_final_alternate...)
-Clear and intuitive way to bookmark your current design before making major changes;
-Replace one version of document with another without breaking references in assemblies and drawings;
-No more accidental overwriting of your files - every copy is safe in the repository for retrieval when you need it.

How it works:

1. App creates and uses three Custom Properties - ID, State and Revision:

ID is the unique identifier for the document, generated from a random number. All revisions of the document will retain the same ID. It is used to prevent file name collisions in the repository by appending that ID to the file name when saving it in the repository. This might be important if you have two files from two different projects that have the same name.

State is the working state of the current revision. There are two right now - "In work" and "Released". "In work" means that the current revision is open to make any changes. "Released" means that the document is now read-only and cannot be modified anymore.

Revision is the version of the document. By default, all new parts are assigned A.1 revision. When new revisions are created, they can be incremented in the major part (B.1, C.1, etc.), or the minor part (A.2, A.3, etc.).

2. The document you are working with is always the main source of truth, so your normal SOLIDWORKS workflow stays the same. When you save the document, it is only saved to your project folder. If you decide to release the current revision, create a new revision, or revert to a previous revision, a copy of your current document is made inside the repository, but all the references still point to the original document. File name of this copy is made from the ID, Revision and the original document name (for example, 51668462_A.1_MyPart.SLDPRT). But you don't have to worry about this - the file you are working with will retain the name you created.

3. If you decide to revert to an earlier revision, your current document is then replaced from the repository. File name and location remains the same (MyPart.SLDPRT), and references in open documents are automatically updated. Meaning that if you revert from revision B.1 to A.1 in a part, and then switch back to an assembly or drawing, it will display the A.1 revision. For all intents and purposes, you can think of this as replacing the contents of your document.

User interface

Very simple ;)

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How to use it:

Set up: open the app macro (SOLIDWORKS -> Macro Toolbar -> Edit Macro), and at the top of the code, specify the path to where you want to keep your repository. By default it is "C:\Repo". Save the macro. I recommend assigning it to a button on the Taskbar, or a keyboard shortcut.

1. Create a new document and save it on your hard drive, or open an existing document.

2. Launch the app like any other macro. If you are using it for the first time on that document, it will generate appropriate Custom Properties, create revision A.1, and set it's state to "In work". If you have used this document with this app before, it will read it's Custom Properties, display the current Revision and State, as well as read the repository, find other revisions of this document (by it's ID), and display them in the drop-down list.

3. Do some awesome modelling. App does not have to be open - you can close it and re-open at any time.

4. When you are satisfied, click "Release revision". Your document will be set to Read-Only, and a copy of it will be saved to the repository. This Read-Only lock is meant to prevent accidental changes to a revision that is already confirmed, but it can be disabled in the macro code (not recommended).

5. If you need to make further changes after the revision has been released, you need to create a new revision. Choose whether the new revision should increment from the current one by the major or minor part (from A.1 to B.1 or to A.2), and click New Revision. The old revision will be saved to the repository if it is not there already, and a new one will be created with the "In work" state.

You can also create a new revision without releasing a current one. Just click New Revision. The current revision will still be saved to the repository in the "In work" state, and a new revision will be created.

6. If you want to revert to a previous revision of your document, select the revision from the drop-down list, and click Restore Revision. Your current document will replaced in-place with the appropriate copy from the repository, and all references should be updated. If the revision you loaded is "In work", you can just continue working on it as usual. If you loaded a "Released" revision, you will be unable to make any changes to it. If you want to continue work from that version, click New Revision.

Please note that the document is only saved to repository when you click New Revision or Release Revision, or Restore Revision. There is no automatic saving of the document to the repository when you click Ctrl+S.

Pro tips:

-Since Revision and State are saved as Custom Properties in your document, you can use them in a drawing via Notes -> Link to Custom Property, or in BOMs.

-You can customize the name of the Custom Properties that this app creates, in case you are already using default names for something else. Check the constants at the top of the macro code.

-On Parts, can add a Boss Extrude/Cut feature of a Sketch Text that is linked to the "Revision" Custom Property, to have a physical watermark of the revision on one of the Part's faces. I use this a lot when prototyping 3D printed parts, to be able to track which printed part represents which revision. I am including a Library Feature of a Cut-Extrude with a sketch that is set up like this, with a text font and size that should print clearly enough on most 3D printers with any settings. Saved in SW 2021. Adjust as needed.

Limitations:

-I have only tested this with Bottom-Up strategy projects. I have no idea how well this revisioning system is adapted to Top-Down, as well as things like Save Bodies, Insert Part, Derived Part and so on. Versioning in such cases is very confusing.

-I am not yet 100% sure that all the references to the document will be retained when it is replaced with the copy from repository, since SOLIDWORKS documents also have their internal IDs. If you know how to use ModelDoc2.Extension.SaveAs3 API call to make a copy of the active document with the same internal ID, let me know.

-If repository is in the network directory, and shared between multiple users, there is no reservation lock check. Perhaps this could be implemented, turning this macro into a mini-PDM, but I don't think it's worth the effort right now.

Known bugs:

-Sometimes when launching this app, it throws "ActiveX component can't create object" error. It's rare, but still happens. No idea why, all references seem to be fine... If anyone knows, please do tell.

Disclaimer:

I have tested the app and it seems to be working fine, but I haven't checked all possible workflow combinations, so there might be some bugs. Consider this a Beta release, and make backups of your projects so you don't lose your work!

To-Do:

-Add revision comments;
-Add multiple repositories (repository per project);
-Add "preview revision" button to check a revision without replacing anything;
-Add optional automatic file saving to the repository when document is saved normally (CTRL+S);
-Add detection and disabling of the app if a repository document is opened directly (currently can cause file name corruptions if any buttons are pressed);
-Make app settings editable in the UI (settings persistence);
-Prevent repository copies from appearing in SOLIDWORKS Recent Files list;
-Implement ID checking of the repository files when creating new ID to prevent accidental random number collision (astronomically small chance, but still);
-Your suggestions...


Let me know what you think. Like I said, I threw it together in 2 days, so it might have bugs. If I find any and fix them, I will upload updated version here too. Feel free to share suggestions on how to improve it as well.

Waiting for comments :)

P.S. Before downloading, check posts below, I will post updated versions there. Not sure how long I can continue editing this original post and adding new files to it.
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Re: Revision control app macro (release)

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This is fascinating... like a PDM Standard Lite.

I am also curious how this would affect a more top-down modeling structure but this is a really cool idea for a macro project. I'll definitely play around with it to see how it works in different scenarios.
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AlexB wrote: Wed Mar 23, 2022 11:38 am This is fascinating... like a PDM Standard Lite.

I am also curious how this would affect a more top-down modeling structure but this is a really cool idea for a macro project. I'll definitely play around with it to see how it works in different scenarios.
Thank you! I am not exactly sure how traditional revision control systems (like PDM) handles revisions with top-down. I tried testing revisions with top-down on 3DEXPERIENCE, but I don't think it handles top-down at all :D


Release V2

Changes:
-App now monitors document changes - no need to close and re-open it anymore to latch on the active document.
-User can now Preview selected revision from the repository (read-only) before committing to restore it. Previewed file needs to be closed before restoring.
-If user opens any file from the repository (either with Preview button, or manually), app controls grey out to prevent messing up these files.

User Interface:

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Known bugs:
-Still the random "ActiveX component can't create object" error...
-App doesn't detect when user closes all documents, and still shows last document info, unless another document is opened. This is because I can't seem to implement proper file close event firing. Yes I know of that article Artem made (https://www.codestack.net/solidworks-ap ... ose-event/), but it is just so damn complicated for a simple notification...
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Haven't got a need for it. But very nice work !
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Very nice work.
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Excellent
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Amazing!

I've looked for this for a long time without resorting to a solution like PDM.

But here it didn't work :(
When I click "New revision" or "Release revision" the file is not saved in the Repo folder
I ask to debug and an error appears on the line:

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Can you tell me what could have happened?
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.Pack wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:33 pm Amazing!

I've looked for this for a long time without resorting to a solution like PDM.

But here it didn't work :(
When I click "New revision" or "Release revision" the file is not saved in the Repo folder
I ask to debug and an error appears on the line:

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Can you tell me what could have happened?
IModelDocExtension.SaveAs3 was introduced with SW 2020, are you using an earlier version than 2020?
If that's the only issue, you can try replacing it with SaveAs2:

swModel.extension.SaveAs2 path, 0, options, Nothing, Empty, Empty, errors, warnings
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AlexB wrote: Wed May 04, 2022 4:44 pm IModelDocExtension.SaveAs3 was introduced with SW 2020, are you using an earlier version than 2020?
If that's the only issue, you can try replacing it with SaveAs2:

swModel.extension.SaveAs2 path, 0, options, Nothing, Empty, Empty, errors, warnings
I'm using SW 2019.
There's the problem. :geek:

I tested it with SaveAs2 and it worked fine.

Thank you very much!!!!! :D :D
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Hi guys, after some time I returned to this macro app, found some bugs, things to improve, etc. So here's version 3.
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Release V3

Changes:
-It is now possible to use the app for a component while editing it in-context in an assembly.
-App now correctly detects document changes, as well as when all documents are closed.
-UI has been renewed, showing the title of the document it is controlling to reduce confusion, as well as the directory of the repository.
-All Released documents are made Read-only, all their external references are locked (configurable), and Freeze Bar is used to freeze the whole feature tree (configurable). This should help with Top-Down designs.
-However it is possible to force a released version back into In-Work state through a dedicated button.
-It is now possible to quickly change repository directory, and this setting is persistent. This should be useful if you want to have separate repositories for each project, so they don't mix.
-It is now possible to delete all version tracking information for a part, to reset it back to A.1 with a new ID in the repository. You can also clear out the entire repository with another button.
-Names of the Custom Properties, and the values ("In Work" / "Released") can be changed for localization.
-Major refactoring. Should be much easier to read through the code if you want to customize the app per your needs.
-Added a test suite, current coverage around 80% (most untested stuff is in the UI, which is a major pain to test automatedly in VBA editor). If you make some changes, and want to make sure nothing in the app is broken, run Modules->Tests->TestAll. Prepare a test part (any part) and any assembly (it that contains the part), and run it. Make sure you edit the path to these test models at the top of the Tests module.
-Renamed the app to "Version control app". Someone told me this is more accurate.

Bug fixes:
-Previously the app would not detect when all documents are closed, and show info for the last one. It is fixed now.
-Sometimes the app would leave the Released parts in a weird state, and be unable to return them to In Work. It shouldn't happen anymore.

Known bugs:
-When you Release a component that is edited in-context in an assembly, for some reason SW does not roll the freeze bar on it's Feature Manager Tree. I am using featMgr.EditFreeze2 (swMoveFreezeBarToEnd ) and it returns no errors, yet fails to roll the bar. If anyone knows a fix, let me know. To avoid this bug, just open the part and then release it.

Compatibility:
-I checked and I think that all the API calls should work with SW versions as early as 2019, but I haven't tested it. If you find something not working (or if you need this app running on even earlier versions), let me know which API calls throw an error, and I'll revert them to earlier versions.

Notes:
-Settings can be found in Modules->Constants.
-With default settings, the app will lock all external references when document is set to Released. Make sure you understand this, and change it in the settings if you don't want that.
-Run this macro via the Core.main() (if you make a Macro Button for this app, make sure you select this method as the entry point)

Fun fact:
-The whole reason why I made this macro app is because I tried 3DEXPERIENCE for Makers, hoping to get version control for my hobby projects, and after encountering numerous bugs, crashes, corrupted data, failing to save, failing to retrieve, throwing error messages at me all the time, - I thought to myself - come on, how hard can it be to code a simple CAD version control? :D

I haven't tested it very thoroughly yet (except for the automated tests), so if anyone has any problems, let me know. And please back up your data, just in case :)

P.S. If you are using this app, I would recommend checking this box in SW Options so it doesn't bug you about re-saving Released docs. This macro app already saves them automatically just before setting them to read-only.
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Very good work, thank you!

Maybe you could implement a method to have the Repo as a directory relative to the part's directory?
For example, our structure is like this:
-Project
--CAD
--Repo

This should work:

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'Debug.Print swModel.GetPathName
RepoFolder = Left(swmodel.GetPathName, InStrRev(swmodel.GetPathName, "\") - 1)
'Debug.Print RepoFolder
RepoFolder = Left(RepoFolder, InStrRev(RepoFolder, "\"))
'Debug.Print RepoFolder
RepoFolder = RepoFolder + "REPO\"
newFolderPath = RepoFolder + newSubFolderName + "\"
'Debug.Print "Path: " & newFolderPath
newPath = Strings.Replace(newFolderPath, newName, vbTextCompare)
'Debug.Print RepoFolder
If Dir(RepoFolder, vbDirectory) = vbNullString Then
    MkDir RepoFolder
End If
If Dir(newFolderPath, vbDirectory) = vbNullString Then
    MkDir newFolderPath
End If
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mgibeault wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 12:07 pm Very good work, thank you!

Maybe you could implement a method to have the Repo as a directory relative to the part's directory?
For example, our structure is like this:
-Project
--CAD
--Repo
Sure, this can be done. But what would be the best way to switch between this and the default (persistent repo dir) behavior? Because each user might want that repo to be in a bit different folder above the part files. I am not entirely sure how to setup this behavior without having the user to explicitly write folder structure in the macro.
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laukejas wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 3:57 pm Sure, this can be done. But what would be the best way to switch between this and the default (persistent repo dir) behavior? Because each user might want that repo to be in a bit different folder above the part files. I am not entirely sure how to setup this behavior without having the user to explicitly write folder structure in the macro.
Yes, you could have the two options (one folder for all projects or one folder per project) and the user has to comment-out the correct one.
I think an "ARCHIVE" folder within the current folder would be the most logical;
-Project
--CAD
---ARCHIVE
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mgibeault wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 9:17 am Yes, you could have the two options (one folder for all projects or one folder per project) and the user has to comment-out the correct one.
I think an "ARCHIVE" folder within the current folder would be the most logical;
-Project
--CAD
---ARCHIVE
Hmm, okay, that could work. So, you're suggesting the archive would be one folder up. I wonder if that is where most users would want to store the archive. Also I am not sure how reliable this would be if other users like to make more nested folders inside the CAD folder. For example
-Project
--CAD
---Drawings
---Assemblies
----Sub-assembly

And so on. They would probably still want to have a single archive, not a bunch of archives in each folder.

What is the reason you suggested this automatic one-level-up archive folder idea? Do you switch between different projects often, which would make switching archive directory manually inconvenient? I'm just trying to gauge how to best define the use case, maybe we can find an ideal solution here that would fit everyone :)
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laukejas wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:10 pm Hmm, okay, that could work. So, you're suggesting the archive would be one folder up. I wonder if that is where most users would want to store the archive. Also I am not sure how reliable this would be if other users like to make more nested folders inside the CAD folder. For example
-Project
--CAD
---Drawings
---Assemblies
----Sub-assembly

And so on. They would probably still want to have a single archive, not a bunch of archives in each folder.

What is the reason you suggested this automatic one-level-up archive folder idea? Do you switch between different projects often, which would make switching archive directory manually inconvenient? I'm just trying to gauge how to best define the use case, maybe we can find an ideal solution here that would fit everyone :)
Yes, one "Archive" per project.
I think what would work better is if the "Archive" folder was inside the "CAD" folder.
We decided several years ago it was way more convenient to have all SolidWorks files for a project in one folder; that way there are some convenient features that work better (opening a drawing from a part/assembly mainly).
As probably a lot of us, I may work for several weeks on one project. But another day I would work on 10 different projects. It has to be automated otherwise it's will be a nightmare.
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Hello!
Great app, but i found error in sorting version information.
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Therefore, the maximum version number can be 10, after which the counter does not grow (since it considers that the 9th number is the last one in accordance with the sorting) and overwrites the last 10th file.

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in ActiveSwDoc replace in GetNextVersion function

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GetNextVersion = CStr(CInt(latestVersion) + 1)
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GetNextVersion = CStr(CInt(currentbranchVersionsList.Count) + 1)
This doesn't fix the sorting, but it does allow you to create any number of versions.
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Hi,

excellent stuff! Thanks!

Couple ideas:

1. All of us do not use "2-level revisions". I mean, I would like to just have revisions like "A,B,C..." or "1,2,3...". Or at least revision should be written to 2 different custom properties, so I could use only the 1st part of it (e.g A,B,C...) in drawing.

2. How about support for configuration specific properties...sometimes we need different item no. for different configurations in model and also revision should be per configuration.
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sloworks wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:30 am Hi,

excellent stuff! Thanks!

Couple ideas:

1. All of us do not use "2-level revisions". I mean, I would like to just have revisions like "A,B,C..." or "1,2,3...". Or at least revision should be written to 2 different custom properties, so I could use only the 1st part of it (e.g A,B,C...) in drawing.

2. How about support for configuration specific properties...sometimes we need different item no. for different configurations in model and also revision should be per configuration.
Thanks for your suggestions! I am currently on other programming projects, and don't know when I'll be able to come back to this little side project and fix the bugs and implement stuff that you and others suggested. I hope I'll find time for it.

1. This is a great suggestion, and indeed there are several different revisioning schemes like the one you suggested. I would like to make this configurable, but it would require rewriting a good deal of the macro to make it compatible with these schemes.
2. I have considered this, but the issue is storing and replacing revisions in the repository. If there is one revision per file, there's no issue, macro saves the file to repo when creating new revisions or replaces the original file from repo to switch to another revision. But if different configurations have different revisions, how would macro save/load them to/from repo? After all, configurations share the same file, same features, same dimensions. If, for example, in configuration A you Release revision 1, but in configuration B you create a new revision (2) and delete a feature, you will have broken released revision of configuration A, since features are still part of the same file. As you can see this breaks the trust that this whole macro is about. If you have any suggestions on how to solve this, I would love to hear it - it would be great to have individual revisions for different configs, but I just don't know how to implement that.
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laukejas wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:54 am If you have any suggestions on how to solve this, I would love to hear it - it would be great to have individual revisions for different configs, but I just don't know how to implement that.
The way that PDM does this is to load the latest referenced version and hope for the best. There's no good way to handle multiple references to different versions of a component in the same assembly.
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AlexB wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:27 pm The way that PDM does this is to load the latest referenced version and hope for the best. There's no good way to handle multiple references to different versions of a component in the same assembly.
That sounds more trouble than it's worth... I suppose the "easiest" way to version configurations without such issues is to create a derived file referencing a configuration (new part file and then Insert Part, referencing a specific config from the original file), and then version that derived file instead. Benefit here being that you can lock Insert Part external references in that derived part and therefore ensure correct geometry. Downside of course is the headache of creating these extra files and no easy way to switch configurations between them in assembly. I think this is how 3DX works under the hood (CAD Family (master file with configs) -> Physical Product (derived file with specific config). My macro should be compatible with this workflow as well as it is right now. But yeah, SW isn't really built with this in mind. I think this issue is also very similar to versioning files in Top-Down design. I wonder what would be the ideal solution if we had a chance to make a new CAD software from scratch.
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Hmm. One common revision for file to handle saving/restoring to/from repository. And then "subrevisions" for configurations and when one of those change, also the common revision changes? What am I missing, seems too simple?
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Configurations are a sticky issue for revisions. For us they can represent a family of parts each with their own part number. But we can also have some that are for reference in a drawing. The sheet metal flat is a good example. So do you revision those as well? Today we revise all of them together so they are always the same letter.
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jcapriotti wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:08 pm Configurations are a sticky issue for revisions. For us they can represent a family of parts each with their own part number. But we can also have some that are for reference in a drawing. The sheet metal flat is a good example. So do you revision those as well? Today we revise all of them together so they are always the same letter.
Good point. I think the issue is that there is no distinction between the two in SW. It should be two separate things - physical products, or an alternative representations of a physical product.
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laukejas wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 12:29 pm Good point. I think the issue is that there is no distinction between the two in SW. It should be two separate things - physical products, or an alternative representations of a physical product.
I think I had a really old enhancement idea I submitted to have the ability to define different configuration types with different settings (Part number, reference use only, etc.) I think we got the derived configurations that kind of did some of that but not fully.

Today we somewhat handle it with a custom property editor that looks at configuration names for certain suffixes that we have standardized. The configuration name starts with the part number, then adds a suffix if needed for different cases.
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jcapriotti wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:23 pm I think I had a really old enhancement idea I submitted to have the ability to define different configuration types with different settings (Part number, reference use only, etc.) I think we got the derived configurations that kind of did some of that but not fully.

Today we somewhat handle it with a custom property editor that looks at configuration names for certain suffixes that we have standardized. The configuration name starts with the part number, then adds a suffix if needed for different cases.

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That is a neat workaround. I might actually borrow the idea for my projects too. But as far as revisions go, I still don't know of any non-messy solution...
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laukejas wrote: Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:08 pm That is a neat workaround. I might actually borrow the idea for my projects too. But as far as revisions go, I still don't know of any non-messy solution...
Still think this would work:
One common revision for file to handle saving/restoring to/from repository. And then "subrevisions" for configurations and when one of those change, also the common revision changes.
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This looks great. I work for a small company as the sole engineer and we don't have a PDM currently so I think this will be hugely helpful as I try to bring order to revision control.

I downloaded V3 first and can't get it to run. I tried debugging and got a compile error "Sub or function not defined" and it highlighted "SetAppEnabling" on the MainForm.

I tried the other versions to see if they would work and both of them seemed to do fine.

Thanks in advanced!
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laukejas wrote: Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:10 pm Hmm, okay, that could work. So, you're suggesting the archive would be one folder up...
In my new job we will definitively implement this tool, with the options you provided in v3 we can configure it just like I need.
But I cannot get the "Restore" function to work, I get this message:
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I run the macro from a button and the method called is "core.main".
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mgibeault wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:43 pm In my new job we will definitively implement this tool, with the options you provided in v3 we can configure it just like I need.
But I cannot get the "Restore" function to work, I get this message:
2024-06-13_024820-Microsoft Visual Basic for Applications - Version_control_app [running].png

I run the macro from a button and the method called is "core.main".
@laukejas if you have a chance to look into this I would really appreciate!
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mgibeault wrote: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:44 pm @laukejas if you have a chance to look into this I would really appreciate!
Hi Marc, sorry for the delay. I am not sure what that error is about, I haven't seen it before. Can you click on "Aide" when that error appears, and show me what the application does then? Maybe make a video of the whole thing? Does this happen with any SW document? Please send this as PM, we will figure it out there.
JoshuaDeeMan wrote: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:55 pm This looks great. I work for a small company as the sole engineer and we don't have a PDM currently so I think this will be hugely helpful as I try to bring order to revision control.

I downloaded V3 first and can't get it to run. I tried debugging and got a compile error "Sub or function not defined" and it highlighted "SetAppEnabling" on the MainForm.

I tried the other versions to see if they would work and both of them seemed to do fine.

Thanks in advanced!
Hi Joshua, same thing - please make a video and send it to me as PM. Macros are difficult to debug from another computer :)
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laukejas wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:26 am Hi Marc, sorry for the delay. I am not sure what that error is about, I haven't seen it before. Can you click on "Aide" when that error appears, and show me what the application does then? Maybe make a video of the whole thing? Does this happen with any SW document? Please send this as PM, we will figure it out there.
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I don't know what is happening but the DM I wrote is still in my "Outbox" and I can't get it out...

Here it is:

Hi and thanks a lot for the time you put into this!
I join a video capture of what happens when I try to restore a previous version.
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When using the previewing function it works fine.

I made some changes so we can use our workflow, but I don't think I changed anything that would would have break this part of the macro.

Thanks!

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Hi, it's not your fault: the problem is that the button invokes the Core.Restore function, which doesn't exist. The right function is Core.Replace...it's a small typo on the original file...
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PaoloG wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:04 am Hi, it's not your fault: the problem is that the button invokes the Core.Restore function, which doesn't exist. The right function is Core.Replace...it's a small typo on the original file...
That's it!! It works!!

Thanks a lot, this tool will be so useful!
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You're welcome, it's nothing! I'm also using this very useful macro (thanks so much @Laukejas!)...I'm also making some useful changes to the work system used in my office...as soon as I finish them I'll post them here, in case they help others!
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Hi guys, sorry for the delay, I was neck-deep in other work. I fixed all of the issues that were reported so far. That includes @mgibeault , @JoshuaDeeMan and @Kn1ght. I didn't have a chance to test it very thoroughly, so if I made any new bugs, let me know, I should be able to fix them fast now. Attaching the V4 to this post.

Release V4

Bug fixes:
-Sometimes the UI would be greyed out when launched.
-It was impossible to increase the version past 10.
-Error due to missing (depreciated) SetAppEnabling function.
-Error when calling Restore function.


It appears that this macro has gotten a lot more attention than I expected, but I struggle to find the time to maintain it properly. I wanted to post it to Github so that others could maintain/improve it as well, (for example, @PaoloG said you wanted to add some new features), making it a community project, but I don't know how to connect SW VBA editor to Github, it does not seem to support any kind of version control, and the .swp files seem to be obfuscated, making it impossible to merge changes via Git command line. Does anyone know a way around it?

Otherwise, I could convert it to an add-in, which is fully compatible with Github via Visual Studio, but it would hurt the ease of deployment and use for the users. What do you guys think would be the best solution here?
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laukejas wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:47 am I wanted to post it to Github so that others could maintain/improve it as well, (for example, @PaoloG said you wanted to add some new features), making it a community project, but I don't know how to connect SW VBA editor to Github, it does not seem to support any kind of version control, and the .swp files seem to be obfuscated, making it impossible to merge changes via Git command line. Does anyone know a way around it?
The method I've seen is to just do a File => Export File and then upload all of the .bas files. You can do this for the forms too and it will spit out 2 files. One for the code and one for the form design but the document for the form design is still in a serialized/unreadable format.
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laukejas wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:47 am Hi guys, sorry for the delay, I was neck-deep in other work. I fixed all of the issues that were reported so far. That includes @mgibeault , @JoshuaDeeMan and @Kn1ght. I didn't have a chance to test it very thoroughly, so if I made any new bugs, let me know, I should be able to fix them fast now. Attaching the V4 to this post.

Release V4

Bug fixes:
-Sometimes the UI would be greyed out when launched.
-It was impossible to increase the version past 10.
-Error due to missing (depreciated) SetAppEnabling function.
-Error when calling Restore function.


It appears that this macro has gotten a lot more attention than I expected, but I struggle to find the time to maintain it properly. I wanted to post it to Github so that others could maintain/improve it as well, (for example, @PaoloG said you wanted to add some new features), making it a community project, but I don't know how to connect SW VBA editor to Github, it does not seem to support any kind of version control, and the .swp files seem to be obfuscated, making it impossible to merge changes via Git command line. Does anyone know a way around it?

Otherwise, I could convert it to an add-in, which is fully compatible with Github via Visual Studio, but it would hurt the ease of deployment and use for the users. What do you guys think would be the best solution here?
I look forward to check that, I use your macro everyday!
I made some changes so it was easier to integrate to our workflow. So my preference is to continue sharing macros here, we can integrate your changes without loosing our work. But then, I know nothing of software development and what is possible/easier.
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AlexB wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 8:28 am The method I've seen is to just do a File => Export File and then upload all of the .bas files. You can do this for the forms too and it will spit out 2 files. One for the code and one for the form design but the document for the form design is still in a serialized/unreadable format.
I tried it, but it appears that this has to be done for every class file in the macro? There are like 10 in mine... Not very convenient. But still, it's better than nothing, thank you. Though I hope there is an easier way :lol:
mgibeault wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 9:38 am I look forward to check that, I use your macro everyday!
I made some changes so it was easier to integrate to our workflow. So my preference is to continue sharing macros here, we can integrate your changes without loosing our work. But then, I know nothing of software development and what is possible/easier.
Great to hear that! Okay, feel free to share it here, but let me know what has been changed exactly, so I can merge your improvements into the main macro.
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laukejas wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:43 am Great to hear that! Okay, feel free to share it here, but let me know what has been changed exactly, so I can merge your improvements into the main macro.
It's mostly changing some constants and some terminology.
For example we use Phase / Revision instead of Branch / Version

While updating my version something weird grumph happened.
Both versions (my v3 and the new v4) were opened in the Macro Editor and I was comparing the modules, updating what needed to be.
Now, when I open my version everything has been overwritten! My changes are aren't there!
When I open backup files I made this morning, they too are "reset" and don't have my edits o[
What's up???
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Is it a problem with the Macro Editor?
When I run the macro from SW it runs with my modifications...
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mgibeault wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 12:28 pm It's mostly changing some constants and some terminology.
For example we use Phase / Revision instead of Branch / Version

While updating my version something weird grumph happened.
Both versions (my v3 and the new v4) were opened in the Macro Editor and I was comparing the modules, updating what needed to be.
Now, when I open my version everything has been overwritten! My changes are aren't there!
When I open backup files I made this morning, they too are "reset" and don't have my edits o[
What's up???
It sounds like you opened both the old and the new version at the same time, but when you run it from the editor, you activate the wrong version. I don't think it should overwrite anything. If you can still open the correct version from SW, it means that file is still intact. Check what file is the macro button pointing to:
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And make sure you backup that one.

As for the editor, try to close it, maybe restart SW - that should get rid of the two instances of the macro in the editor.
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I restarted everything but it seems to be lost for good :roll:
I retrieved a version with Windows' version history but either it never cached the one I modified or, since we use OneDrive, it's messed up by Windows.
I'll send a copy home next time!

We need a way to implement changes without having to load two macros in SW Macro Editor.
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What version of Solidworks are you all running? I'm on 2023 SP5.0 currently. I just downloaded V4 and went to run it and it acts like it is thinking for a minute but then nothing happens, no window appears, errors or anything. I also can't find a string in this code to change the Repository file path.

I was running V2 and used it all the time. Then I transfered all my files into one drive to keep them backed up, they are all still saved locally. I fixed the file path but it has not worked propperly since. It will show the past revisions and can preview and restore them but when I go to create a new revison it will not increment and sometimes will even back up the number instead. I'd be glad to update but like I said I cant gt it to run.

Unfortunaly I know just enough about coding to do very basic stuff with the help of Chat GPT so I'm at a loss where to look to solve the issues. I have really liked using this macro. It is some really awesome work but as much as I like it I may have to purchase a PDM license to keep moving.

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JoshuaDeeMan wrote: Wed Sep 25, 2024 10:53 am What version of Solidworks are you all running? I'm on 2023 SP5.0 currently. I just downloaded V4 and went to run it and it acts like it is thinking for a minute but then nothing happens, no window appears, errors or anything. I also can't find a string in this code to change the Repository file path.

I was running V2 and used it all the time. Then I transfered all my files into one drive to keep them backed up, they are all still saved locally. I fixed the file path but it has not worked propperly since. It will show the past revisions and can preview and restore them but when I go to create a new revison it will not increment and sometimes will even back up the number instead. I'd be glad to update but like I said I cant gt it to run.

Unfortunaly I know just enough about coding to do very basic stuff with the help of Chat GPT so I'm at a loss where to look to solve the issues. I have really liked using this macro. It is some really awesome work but as much as I like it I may have to purchase a PDM license to keep moving.

Thanks
Hey, I am using 2024 SP3.1. I haven't used this macro much after the last release, maybe I missed some bugs. Does this happen with new parts as well? If you can work out the steps how to reproduce this issue from scratch, I can probably fix it. Let me know.
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I did reread the information on V3 and got V4 to run that way (I think I have been running the wrong entry point) but whenever I hit new branch or new version I get an error "Subscript out of range". On a new file it is able to put in the base information needed but still throws the same error. On this test I did have the repository routed to a folder that backs up to One drive

I just tried it again with the default repo location which would not be backed up by one drive and it seems to work, though it did hit a stopping point at Branch C till I released a few versions. I may be able to work with this but somehow I need to find a way to back up repo files.

Our IT guy just told me about Symbolic linked folders. I may look into this to make it appear to the macro that One drive doesn't exists but it would still backup files to that location.

As far as V2 goes the problem happens with any file, new or old I may try the above idea with it as well. It seem to be with the incrementation though. It can view/restore other files in the repository but it can't increment and thus create a new file.
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laukejas wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 10:43 am Great to hear that! Okay, feel free to share it here, but let me know what has been changed exactly, so I can merge your improvements into the main macro.
Hi,
I used the macro quite a lot here it was great and, with a few changes to follow our revision scheme, it was perfect.
I say "was" because since yesterday several files won't work.
Symptoms:
-When increasing the branch or the revision I may get the error message "Subscript out of range"
-In the "available versions" drop-down, there's no version available, when there are several in the repository.
If I edit the macro and step in the problem is there:
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I join my version of the macro. I think I only made changes to the interface language and file properties names.
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I think it is failing because there is only 1 instance of "_" in the FileName string, and you are looking for the 2nd one.
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SPerman wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:02 am I think it is failing because there is only 1 instance of "_" in the FileName string, and you are looking for the 2nd one.
The file I'm using right now that I'm testing on has these in the "Repo" folder:
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66233193_A.2_231130-312.SLDPRT
66233193_A.2_231130-312.SLDPRT
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NM. I found the additional modules.

In the quick little bit of testing I did, I only got the "subscript out of range" error if there was no "_" in the filename.
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Frustrating... it worked well for months and now this.
The only thing that happened is that I showed how to use it to a co-worker. It did not work on his computer, but I'll debug that after, if I manage to get it working again on mine.
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