SW PDM partner program termination
SW PDM partner program termination
Well this is a start to 2025 . We use Design Data Manager (DDM) as our PDM system since 2015. They are part of the SW partner program. Yesterday we received notification that SW is terminating CSI(the company that developed DDM) as a partner in Nov. 2026. Apparently Dassault are transitioning to a new partner program and CSI will not be part of it.
We use three seats of SW. At this point I am thinking, it might be easier to change to SolidEdge than change PDM system.
Is anyone else facing this situation?
We use three seats of SW. At this point I am thinking, it might be easier to change to SolidEdge than change PDM system.
Is anyone else facing this situation?
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That's too bad, used DDM at my previous job. Dassault always coming up with a new way upset the apple cart.
What's the new partner program entail? Must have require more £££ then CSI wanted to commit.
What's the new partner program entail? Must have require more £££ then CSI wanted to commit.
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This is the relevant sentence.
"We have been informed by DS SolidWorks that our current Partner Program Membership will be
terminated on 26th November 2026 (“Termination Date”). We have also been informed that we will not be
considered for the new Partner Program".
So I don't know if CSI was unwilling to commit.
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Just a wild hunch, but isn't a big part of a "Platform" is that they get all your stuff in their domain? I don't see where third parties fit into that plan.
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That's pretty much the principle of Cloud as a whole. "Give us all your knowledge, we'll keep it safe, we promise!"
It gets scary when you start seeing a bigger picture being drawn of what could be done/accomplished.
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Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Is Dassault doing an across the board sweep on other partner products? For example SW PCB (which is basically Altium) was effectively retired a couple of years ago as it is no longer part of the network licensing. They we trying to push us to us it on line.
We now just use it on a standalone license.
We now just use it on a standalone license.
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Hmm, troubling. We also use a third-party PDM provider (Pulse PLM) so hopefully we won't have a similar problem.
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Yes I had a customer on the phone today saying they had that letter - and they have 16 seats of SolidWorks and over 25 years of legacy data to deal with. I don't know the reasoning for this, but given that the lead time for ending support is 2 years, and that 3D Experience World is coming up I am thinking the worst - that they will finally annouce that SolidWorks is transitioning to the "platform" and all users have to use their cloud provision. If that is indeed the case (which I sincerely hope is not the case) then it's time to end our relationship with SolidWorks unless they can sort out their ridiculous charges for data storage on their cloud (£79 per 25GB per year per user - so if you are using legacy data with TBs of data that soon starts to get very expensive).
I mean let's see what happens, but I'm expecting the worst.
I mean let's see what happens, but I'm expecting the worst.
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Hi, we have a similar situation. We were about to start using DDM in my new company when they notified us of this change. I really like DDM as a PDM solutions, as it offers a lot more flexibility than PDMworks, and it is significantly cheaper. In my experience, using PDMworks in the past always ends up in having to make some massive compromise on usability, or having to spend lots of time using third party scripts to work.Ronan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:22 am Well this is a start to 2025 . We use Design Data Manager (DDM) as our PDM system since 2015. They are part of the SW partner program. Yesterday we received notification that SW is terminating CSI(the company that developed DDM) as a partner in Nov. 2026. Apparently Dassault are transitioning to a new partner program and CSI will not be part of it.
We use three seats of SW. At this point I am thinking, it might be easier to change to SolidEdge than change PDM system.
Is anyone else facing this situation?
Now, because of this, as we are at the start of implementing CAD in my new company, I am faced with the decision of a) ditching DDM and using PDMworks (which was not my original intention), b) keeping DDM knowing that I will have to change it in 2 years time, or c) ditching Solidworks altogether and use a different CAD system that does not force you onto their own PDM solution and the cloud.
I am very tempted by option c)!
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I don't even see DDM as a partner on the website currently, nor others I'm aware of.
We are moving to Windchill and it supports SolidWorks files with its Workgroup Manager (WGM) application. I can't imagine that Dassault would just cutoff all competing PDM integrations out there. If that were to happen, our company would drop SolidWorks before dropping Windchill, meaning we would likely end up on Creo. Maybe CSI didn't agree to the new terms whatever they were.
We are moving to Windchill and it supports SolidWorks files with its Workgroup Manager (WGM) application. I can't imagine that Dassault would just cutoff all competing PDM integrations out there. If that were to happen, our company would drop SolidWorks before dropping Windchill, meaning we would likely end up on Creo. Maybe CSI didn't agree to the new terms whatever they were.
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Re: SW PDM partner program termination
DDM are on there but there are a bunch of others that aren't (including Windchill, Pulse, XPLM).jcapriotti wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:03 pm I don't even see DDM as a partner on the website currently, nor others I'm aware of.
https://www.solidworks.com/partners/eng ... ?wockw=DDM
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Ahh I see now.....I was using the Product Data Management filter and most aren't under there....go figure.dave.laban wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:00 am DDM are on there but there are a bunch of others that aren't (including Windchill, Pulse, XPLM).
https://www.solidworks.com/partners/eng ... ?wockw=DDM
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How do you like Pulse PLM? Does it have an integration into SolidWorks?
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Re: SW PDM partner program termination
Not being a partner doesn't mean their software/script will stop working.
It more like Dassault doesn't support it, like video drivers
Lots of user use "non-partner" macro/addin anyway.
It more like Dassault doesn't support it, like video drivers
Lots of user use "non-partner" macro/addin anyway.
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There is a license I believe to access the "SOLIDWORKS Document Manager API" so it can access and edit custom properties and file references without SolidWorks being installed or the files open. We use it internally and have to request a new license key for each version. Maybe DDM is losing access to something like this by not being in the partner program.Frederick_Law wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:01 pm Not being a partner doesn't mean their software/script will stop working.
It more like Dassault doesn't support it, like video drivers
Lots of user use "non-partner" macro/addin anyway.
https://help.solidworks.com/2025/Englis ... grapi.html
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That is basically what is happening. They will not be able to integrate DDM into versions of SW after SW 2026.jcapriotti wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:06 pm There is a license I believe to access the "SOLIDWORKS Document Manager API" so it can access and edit custom properties and file references without SolidWorks being installed or the files open. We use it internally and have to request a new license key for each version. Maybe DDM is losing access to something like this by not being in the partner program.
https://help.solidworks.com/2025/Englis ... grapi.html
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Hi,
Note : this is my first post in this forum. First intention was to find feedback from DDM.
I am in connection with DDM team. I am starting an evaluation of it.
They informed me and this partner program terminaison before I purchase the trial.
My point of view is :
- SW version do not give me really new features for my design office. We jumped directly from 2017 to 2022 version without change for the daily work
- if we stop SW upgrade with the 2026 version, we can work to 2032/35 without feeling missing something
- We are working on relatively high confidential degree projects. I can not deal with a cloud solution.
Looking for an "simple and esay to use" PDM/PLM solution, I still considering DDM as a good solution ... if my evaluation give me satisfaction.
Bertrand
Note : this is my first post in this forum. First intention was to find feedback from DDM.
I am in connection with DDM team. I am starting an evaluation of it.
They informed me and this partner program terminaison before I purchase the trial.
My point of view is :
- SW version do not give me really new features for my design office. We jumped directly from 2017 to 2022 version without change for the daily work
- if we stop SW upgrade with the 2026 version, we can work to 2032/35 without feeling missing something
- We are working on relatively high confidential degree projects. I can not deal with a cloud solution.
Looking for an "simple and esay to use" PDM/PLM solution, I still considering DDM as a good solution ... if my evaluation give me satisfaction.
Bertrand
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Re: SW PDM partner program termination
Yeah I like Pulse. Not the visually fanciest UI but functionally it's got all bases covered. It's got an integration tool that has a few quirks compared to others I've used, but once you've adapted it does everything you'd need it to. Reasonably priced and quick support too.jcapriotti wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:47 pm Ahh I see now.....I was using the Product Data Management filter and most aren't under there....go figure.
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How do you like Pulse PLM? Does it have an integration into SolidWorks?
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Re: SW PDM partner program termination
Big shame seems to be that these outlier PDM/PLM system don't have any online presence. No or few videos or demos.dave.laban wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:04 am Yeah I like Pulse. Not the visually fanciest UI but functionally it's got all bases covered. It's got an integration tool that has a few quirks compared to others I've used, but once you've adapted it does everything you'd need it to. Reasonably priced and quick support too.
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Well, I like DDM. It offers a lot of functionality and flexibility that PDMworks does not offer as standard. It is significantly cheaper and I like that it is CAD software independent. In my view, it is our business processes that would remain the same and the way we organise our workflows. My line of thought is that if we stick with DDM (which is the software that deals with this), we can have consistency and stability with our file management practices. If we need to change authoring tool in the future (2027 or later if we stick with 2026 for a couple of years), then it is Solidworks that looses the business. Yes, we will have pain on migrating data to a different CAD system, but we would hardly be the first people to do this.BertrandR wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:29 am Hi,
Note : this is my first post in this forum. First intention was to find feedback from DDM.
I am in connection with DDM team. I am starting an evaluation of it.
They informed me and this partner program terminaison before I purchase the trial.
My point of view is :
- SW version do not give me really new features for my design office. We jumped directly from 2017 to 2022 version without change for the daily work
- if we stop SW upgrade with the 2026 version, we can work to 2032/35 without feeling missing something
- We are working on relatively high confidential degree projects. I can not deal with a cloud solution.
Looking for an "simple and esay to use" PDM/PLM solution, I still considering DDM as a good solution ... if my evaluation give me satisfaction.
Bertrand
Thoughts?
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Great. I will start evaluation tomorrow. I also like the fact it is CAD software independant.
I follow the same idea. That s why I decided to continue the evaluation process of DDM even with this information.xtmechSB wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:14 pm My line of thought is that if we stick with DDM (which is the software that deals with this), we can have consistency and stability with our file management practices. If we need to change authoring tool in the future (2027 or later if we stick with 2026 for a couple of years), then it is Solidworks that looses the business. Yes, we will have pain on migrating data to a different CAD system, but we would hardly be the first people to do this.
Thoughts?
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Re: SW PDM partner program termination
Did DDM say they will continue support SolidWorks past the 2026 date, even if no longer part of the partner program?
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DDM told me that I have to stay stick to 2026 for SW only. DDM CAD will continue to have enhancement but with limited support to SW 2026.jcapriotti wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:41 am Did DDM say they will continue support SolidWorks past the 2026 date, even if no longer part of the partner program?
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This is a bad omen. Hopefully they won't be doing something stupid....
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