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(a general topic thread on 3D Print tech)
..just saw this video regarding the #speedboatrace
"A small boat is re-inventing 3D printing !... Wow!
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
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Check kijiji for Ender 3.
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I found, a quick clear coat spray make PLA water tight. The paint fill up gap between layer.
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PETBOT: TURN PET BOTTLES INTO FILAMENT
https://hackaday.com/2021/06/29/petbot- ... -filament/
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Frederick_Law wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 1:03 pm PETBOT: TURN PET BOTTLES INTO FILAMENT
https://hackaday.com/2021/06/29/petbot- ... -filament/
Schweppes!.. that is so kewl! :D
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PLA vs PLA+/Plus Filament: The Differences
https://all3dp.com/2/pla-vs-pla-3d-prin ... -compared/
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..next stop.... Jupiter! :shock: UU

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You want this for your resin printer:
https://hackaday.com/2021/08/17/casting ... stiffness/
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Just got a new one F170
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as the dimension elite is about to retire
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I wish we could afford real 3d printers. Stratasys makes nice stuff.
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christian chu wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:20 am Just got a new one F170

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as the dimension elite is about to retire

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I hope it makes coffee as well?
...otherwise, we're all :mrgreen: with envy.
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zxys001 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:44 am I hope it makes coffee as well?
...otherwise, we're all :mrgreen: with envy.
Actually, the Dimension Elite is still running good. We got the new one (F170) since Stratasys will stop support the Elite early next year.
Until then, we now have 2 printers running since we already paid tech subcription on Elite one
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zxys001 wrote: Mon Aug 30, 2021 10:42 am
Too bad that PLA can't be printed on stratasys printer with support material
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The Jupiter is huge!... (still in beta but wth!)
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Yeah!... a New Printer is on it's way! (...it just went on sale at 6am EST)

AnyCubic Mono X 6K ><

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Anycubic- ... 276.0.html

oh... what the hell... got one (and a wash station)!
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Yayy... So happy for you...
I also have AnyCubic Mono X 6K.
This printer is a huge step up from FDM/FFM (usually melted plastic) printers, but please take some time preparing before you start if you want a good experience. Anycubic support is excellent, and there is a large Facebook group full of Anycubic Photon owners willing to give advice and to help you troubleshoot any issues. The printer comes assembled, and isn’t difficult to level once you understand the process. Prints take a while, but I often go to work and come home to a full build platform ready for post-processing. What’s nice about SLA printing is that you can print a single piece or a full build platform, and it takes about the same amount of time if the layer height is the same.
You’ll want to start right away, but take the time this printer deserves and become familiar with common issues and how to fix them. I found that most of the issues I experienced were related to leveling the printer as a whole (the feet on the bottom adjust), leveling the build platform (it has to be tighter than you’d expect, but be careful not to crack the LCD screen), and tension of the FEP film at the bottom of the resin vat (it should be tight, and almost feel like a solid surface).
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frede54 wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 2:20 am Yayy... So happy for you...
I also have AnyCubic Mono X 6K.
This printer is a huge step up from FDM/FFM (usually melted plastic) printers, but please take some time preparing before you start if you want a good experience. Anycubic support is excellent, and there is a large Facebook group full of Anycubic Photon owners willing to give advice and to help you troubleshoot any issues. The printer comes assembled, and isn’t difficult to level once you understand the process. Prints take a while, but I often go to work and come home to a full build platform ready for post-processing. What’s nice about SLA printing is that you can print a single piece or a full build platform, and it takes about the same amount of time if the layer height is the same.
You’ll want to start right away, but take the time this printer deserves and become familiar with common issues and how to fix them. I found that most of the issues I experienced were related to leveling the printer as a whole (the feet on the bottom adjust), leveling the build platform (it has to be tighter than you’d expect, but be careful not to crack the LCD screen), and tension of the FEP film at the bottom of the resin vat (it should be tight, and almost feel like a solid surface).
Glad you have a 6k as well!
Yeah, it's been a great printer, well worth it. This is my second resin, my Kelant s400s is/was great.
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Frederick_Law wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 9:39 am Cura 5.0
https://ultimaker.com/software/ultimaker-cura
I've gotta try it out. :D
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From functional prototyping to customization and final parts, Beretta, the oldest industrial dynasty in the world, has embraced the future of manufacturing
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Ah, profits are up and more greed to embrace making things fast and cheap by the weapons pushers.
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Companies are printing rocket engines. Even hobbyist are printing rocket engines.
Kids can design, print and fly a drone.
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The Zurich University of Applied Sciences has created a modification to Prusa Research’s MK3S printer series to print 90° overhangs without support material.

They have built a 4-axis printhead that rotates at -90/+90°. The best part? The design files for the toolhead are completely open-source — so if you want to build your own Rotbot 4-axis non-planar 3D printing tool, then head over to Printables.

https://all3dp.com/4/you-thought-it-was ... ink-again/
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Made from an aluminum alloy using a Laser Powder Bed Fusion (LPBF) machine, the heat exchanger is intended to cool transmission oil on military helicopters by using fuel as the coolant. Looking somewhat similar to a Fabergé egg, it uses gyroid “infill” for the actual heat exchange part. An interesting characteristic of gyroids is that it creates two separate intermeshed volumes, making them perfect for this application.
https://hackaday.com/2022/10/31/3d-prin ... r-cooling/

Good for custom CPU water cooling.
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Frodrick, The Full Frod Story!
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Frod!
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@christian chu Not saying that you should have buyers envy, and not knowing exactly what you're using 3DP for, but we did a side by side test about 5 years ago of Stratasys's F-Series vs Ultimakers S5.... this was evaluating number of materials the machine could use, cost of materials, build envelope, speed, cost of ownership, consumables, and throughput and it wasn't even close, the S5 ran circles around the F-Series.

We printed the same models on both the S5 and the F-170, F-270, and F-370 and quality/looks wise there was very little difference. Material cost and range is also where the S5 ran circles around the F-Series. And one of the best aspects was the use of PVA support material which dissolves in just plain water.

Maybe when the Elite is gone they'll let you take a look at getting an S5..... UU
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Getting amazing reviews and it's only been about a week since it's been out in the wild!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iIC-GlxI7Q&t
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Or,.. Bambu Labs X1
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@zxys001 The one thing that I do caution people about getting an "inexpensive" 3D printer is will the company still be standing 5 years from now. This may seem like a trivial thing but getting supplies for printing or replacement parts for machines when they break. Also, while single extrusion is the mainstay of a lot of these inexpensive machines there's just so much of a compromise that has to be made when using DFAM for it vs a machine that has a true second nozzle with a dissolvable support material.
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Hey Arthur, personally, the above Bambu Labs X1 has already proven itself as a reliable, inexpensive and hi quality printer... and recently the 3rd party market has answered to many of the wants/needs.

5yrs would be the max I would think for most tech and all of the products I have invested in have lasted >5yrs,... so, yeah, good educated choices are something every user needs to weigh in.

btw, the latest "Qidi Tech X-Plus 3" is also one I'd consider... https://qidi3d.com/products/qidi-x-plus-3
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@zxys001 Here's a nice side by side of the new Prusa to the Bambu.

One thing that I've found VERY.... well baffling is this fixation on "speed". That when people say "well 3D printing takes too long!!!" and my response is always "Compared to what?" and there is always this initial strange look on their face as they start to think about the question and as they start to absorb it there is this initial denial, then sort of refusal....then, in most cases, start to come around, while others... well not so much. It's this last population where I then say "Well here's the thing, while it's 3D printing you can go do something else... like sleep, work, eat... ya know other things while the machine is printing". And this is where the lightbulb goes on in terms of acceptance. Because in the end until it is a Star Trek replicator it will NEVER be fast enough.... :)

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We needed another printer here at work. I gave the Bambu Labs X1 serious consideration, but ended up buying the Qidi Tech. I figure for $800 it was worth the gamble.

While I'm not searching for the ability to print at fast speeds, I've got 2 printers that I keep running pretty much non-stop. If I can turn a 10 hour print into an 8 hour print, that effectively doubles my output, because I can clear the bedplate and start another print before leaving for the day. (Although at $800, a 2nd printer would also double my output.)
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SPerman wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:33 am We needed another printer here at work. I gave the Bambu Labs X1 serious consideration, but ended up buying the Qidi Tech. I figure for $800 it was worth the gamble.

While I'm not searching for the ability to print at fast speeds, I've got 2 printers that I keep running pretty much non-stop. If I can turn a 10 hour print into an 8 hour print, that effectively doubles my output, because I can clear the bedplate and start another print before leaving for the day. (Although at $800, a 2nd printer would also double my output.)
One thing that I'd throw out there is, when thinking of getting another machine, is should you get the exact same or something complimentary. So that you now have a wider range of options of making designs that work better on one platform than the other. So you now have a FFF/FDM machine vs say an SLA. Or I'd say really start taking a look at machines with a true 2nd nozzle as there is a HUGE world of difference when it comes to FFF/FDM printing when there is a secondary support material that can dissolve in water. The Ultimakers are one of my favorites in this arena as they have a large selection of materials that have all been qualified to run on the machine, still open source, and just an all around reliable machine.
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The majority of the parts we produce are for production use, and they are all made out of ABS. I haven't seen many materials in the SLA world that would benefit us. At least not at a reasonable price point.

I have a completely different view on dual nozzle printers. (At least ones that share the same gantry.) The two machines I have are from Raise3d. They are both dual nozzle printers, and they have both been regulated to single nozzle use. In my experience, it is almost impossible to get both nozzles at the correct height above the bed. If you don't get that right, you end up with one nozzle buried in the bed, or one nozzle too high and the filament doesn't stick. It can be done, but it takes several hours, and for me the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. (I'm sure this is less of a problem on higher end printers. The Raise3d units we have were $3k-$4k when we purchased them.)
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@SPerman Definitely hear you on aiming for production quality/materiality from parts made. Yes most of the lower end SLA machines aren't there just yet but that's the one great thing about the 3DP/AM process is that it's one machine and the materials are constantly upgrading and getting better.

Now I would say to the Raise3D experience..... why didn't you contact me first before buying...... :)

This goes a little bit to what posted about earlier about buyer beware. That I've seen way more people/companies buy a cheap machine and get poor results and think that's what all 3DP/Am is like. Not saying you specifically, but in terms of what you described, there can be not so great experience with an OEM's specifically hardware and it's in these moments that either a very strong community needs to be in place, or most importantly the OEM itself needs to have tech support staff in place to help customers whether through the challenges that can come, at times, with a machine.

I'd say most machine below $5K are much more community supported than those over $5K where there's a big push from the OEM's to have that support system in place.

One thing that I can say, and this is from over a decade of using Ultimakers, is that their system is completely automated of both the bed leveling as well as the dual nozzle placement. So that muss and fuss you saw with the Raise3D is not something that happens with my Ultimaker or even bigger machines from companies like Stratasys mainly because they know what they're doing. At one architectural firm I worked with, we had...roughly 30 Ultimaker S5 all in one location and second firm with 13 spread through out

There are WAY too many companies selling machines that don't have a clue and just copy cat rather than innovate in this "red ocean"
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I realize I am working at the very bottom of the market segment. Other than the dual heads being too much work, I don't have much bad to say about them. They've both had issues. Some normal wear and tear, and some things that I probably wouldn't have to deal with in a higher end product. It sounds like the market is changing, but I won't be surprised if the Qidi has issues. It is not much more expensive than one of my CR-10's, and appears to be much more printer. It arrives on Friday. If it isn't up to production standards, I will use it at home. If it is, I can buy 5 of these for one X3.
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