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Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:48 pm
by Damo
Call me crazy if applicable.
I have noticed something new in the 2021 vers. (I cannot say or really recall if I've had this occur in older/previous versions, tho I do not believe so..)
I am noticing random folders appearing in my feature tree for assembly mates .
I do understand mate folders can be useful. I've used them myself in the past to group certain mates together for various reasons like configurations or particular movement actions, etc.
But what I am seeing here is arbitrary folder creation and grouping of seemingly random mates..?!?!?
Is there a setting I am overlooking..?
Is there a new functionality I am not properly comprehending..?

Am I the only one experiencing this..?

PS..While on the subject of mates. Does anyone else feel the mates are becoming more "Intuitive" (read: doing what they "think" you want, rather than what you would expect.?)
ie. When modifying an existing mate it's flipping entire components or breaking/modifying existing mates instead of simply moving the component in the logically expected direction to suit new selection criterion.?

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:25 am
by Glenn Schroeder
I've been using SW2021 since shortly after sp 0.0 was released and have never seen that behavior, and I don't remember seeing anyone else mention it on the forums.

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:33 am
by mike miller
Are you seeing this?
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Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:46 am
by Glenn Schroeder
mike miller wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:33 am Are you seeing this?

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Howdy @mike miller,

I've been using SW since 2009 and didn't know you could do that. Thanks for teaching me something (though I'll admit it took me a few minutes to figure out).

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:43 pm
by JSculley
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 11:46 am Howdy @mike miller,

I've been using SW since 2009 and didn't know you could do that. Thanks for teaching me something (though I'll admit it took me a few minutes to figure out).
You couldn't do that until SW2019, so it's a relatively new thing.

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:27 pm
by Damo
mike miller wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:33 am Are you seeing this?

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Ummm No.. I am not.. That would actually be kinda useful folder sorting regime.
Are they automatically generated folders..?

I am just seeing this..!?!
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I did not create these folders.

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:52 pm
by SPerman
Is there any chance a hotkey was set to generate a new folder that you are accidentally triggering?

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:13 pm
by Damo
SPerman wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:52 pm Is there any chance a hotkey was set to generate a new folder that you are accidentally triggering?
Hmmmm. Interesting..
I certainly haven't set one.. If there was a Hotkey of Keyboard shortcut set to do this it would be a new additional "Feature" .
If it is, I wanna turn that s#1t off.. :roll:
So, I looked thru all the keyboard shortcut settings and could not find anything relevant.

Cheers tho..

I swear my install is haunted.. <()>

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:51 am
by mp3-250
At the bottom of assembly constraints properties there is a check box "add to a new folder" or something like that in English (I am using a localized ver of SW). Probably it stays checked by accident, try to uncheck it once and reapply a constraint to see if the setting reverts back or not.

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:23 am
by Glenn Schroeder
Damo wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 5:27 pm Ummm No.. I am not.. That would actually be kinda useful folder sorting regime.
Are they automatically generated folders..?
That is done by right-clicking on the Mates folder and selecting Group Mates > By Status from the drop-down.

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Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:19 am
by Ben
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:23 am That is done by right-clicking on the Mates folder and selecting Group Mates > By Status from the drop-down.


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thats pretty cool

Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:17 pm
by Damo
mp3-250 wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:51 am At the bottom of assembly constraints properties there is a check box "add to a new folder" or something like that in English (I am using a localized ver of SW). Probably it stays checked by accident, try to uncheck it once and reapply a constraint to see if the setting reverts back or not.
THIS..!! ... I reckon this is my culprit.

Well done Mr. mp3-250 Thank you mate..!
Mate Options.png
This box was checked..
And, I definitely did NOT do that..

And tho I do not recall seeing it before, it seems it has been there since at least 2014, Wow..!! :shock:
I've absolutely never used this option previously.
Even so, I have unselected it as of now in my 2021 version and hope that I wont have this stoopid "Feature" frustrate me again.. :D

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Re: Maddening Mate Folders..!

Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:24 pm
by Damo
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mike miller wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:33 am Are you seeing this?

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Mike, As Ben said, this is indeed pretty cool.
I reckon I will be doing this a lot now.

I'm so glad you showed me this..
Glenn Schroeder wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 8:23 am

That is done by right-clicking on the Mates folder and selecting Group Mates > By Status from the drop-down.
And Glenn, thank you for showing us (me) how..