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Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:22 pm
by Mike Gera
Is it possible to add a part that cannot be clicked on in a drawing view to a stacked balloon ("add to stack")?

A likely example of when this would come into play is a nut and bolt, with the nut being behind a panel that is blocking its own selection.

How is this done?

Thanks.

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:34 pm
by gupta9665
You can expand that view in the feature tree and select from there.

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:29 am
by Mike Gera
Hi Deepak,

I tried that. It did not work.

-Mike

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:35 am
by Glenn Schroeder
The answer from Deepak will of course work, but another method that I've used occasionally is to make the view "Hidden Lines Visible," click on the component to insert the balloon, then switch the view type back. That may be easier than finding it in the tree.

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:47 am
by Mike Gera
Hey Glenn,

I tried that as well. It worked, but when I then tried to add additional leaders to the same balloon stack to point to identical component sets, they turned mustard (broken).

-Mike

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:48 am
by dave.laban
Mike Gera wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:29 am Hi Deepak,

I tried that. It did not work.

-Mike
When picking from the Feature Tree you need to pick the parts Origin for it to be picked up.

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:00 pm
by Mike Gera
dave.laban wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:48 am When picking from the Feature Tree you need to pick the parts Origin for it to be picked up.
Ah, that was it.

Thanks!

-Mike

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:25 am
by HDS
Would that also work for an item like, teflon tape, grease or locktite that is on the bom but does not have geometry?

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:44 am
by dave.laban
HDS wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:25 am Would that also work for an item like, teflon tape, grease or locktite that is on the bom but does not have geometry?
Yes, I do this all the time. Each of the consumables like grease just have an empty part model that gets dropped in to the assembly tree, and then you can pick that origin for balloons.

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:43 am
by AlexLachance
Why not use "Select Other" and select whatever it is you desire?

For empty parts, you need to select from the featuremanager.

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:01 pm
by gupta9665
dave.laban wrote: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:48 am When picking from the Feature Tree you need to pick the parts Origin for it to be picked up.
Thanks Dave for filling in, must have forgot that origin needs to be selected.

Re: Adding an unseen part to a stacked balloon

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2023 1:51 pm
by tom1999
to add a 'dummy' or 'phantom' part I followed the instructions on this link.

https://trimech.com/blog/ballooning-pla ... s-drawings

This works but like all things in SWX it is extremely touchy. I often need to try 3x before it works